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Locked GO for Launch this Saturday, October 8, 2022 #go

Wolfram v.Kiparski
 

Go for launch at the Harmon Field.  It will be partly sunny with a breeze out of the west.  Temperature in the 40s crawling up into the low 50s.  A fine October Day!

UPDATENEW STOP TIME - we are flying until 2:30 p.m.

We are hosting a large pack of Cub Scouts and their families.  Launch priority will be for our guests until they finish up, by about noon.  If you intend to fly your own rockets later, then please help us out in the morning.
-Wolf
MTMA President


Locked Event: MTMA Community Model Rocket and NRC Launch - 10/08/2022 #cal-reminder

Group Notification <noreply@...>
 

Reminder: MTMA Community Model Rocket and NRC Launch

When:
10/08/2022
10:00am to 7:00pm
(UTC-04:00) America/New York

Where:
http://maps.google.com/?q=Harmon%20Flying%20Field%2c%20619%20Bartlett%20Rd%2c%20Aurora%2c%20OH%2044202

Organizer: MTMA

View Event

Description:
This is a public model rocket launch to be conducted in accordance with the NAR Model Rocket Safety Code ( https://www.nar.org/safety-information/model-rocket-safety-code/) and MTMA launch rules and procedures.  Anyone is invited to attend.  This is not a High Power launch.

  • There is a $5 per person fee for non-members.  Children and young people of school age fly for free.
  • Non-members are limited to 10 N-s impulse maximum (C motor), no staging, and no clusters. 
  • All models are subject to a safety check prior to launch.
  • Flight cards are required for each launch.
Launch window:  Launch starts at 10:00 am.  Please arrive earlier rather than later. We will fly until 5:00 pm, or until everyone has had enough and goes home. We may even stay late - no guarantees.  If you arrive later in the day, you may find that we have already flown and packed up. In the event of poor flying conditions, the event will be canceled.  There is no planned rain date.  Monitor our message board at https://mtma.groups.io/g/public/topics for updates.

NRC Info:  You can fly all NRC events, but you need to bring your own eggs and altimeters.  Eggs and altimeters will be checked by the Contest Director. 

Safety info:  Leave your shorts and sandals at home.  Be prepared for the outdoors.  You may be exposed to sun, heat, ticks, abrasive vegetation, and a lot of walking.  Plenty of water, a snack, light-colored clothing, long pants, and sturdy shoes/boots are highly recommended.


Locked Re: Checking Mail

Jeff Kodysz
 

He knows. I let him know about it when I got a personal email from the scammer. I messaged him on Facebook. 

Jeff

On Sep 27, 2022, at 14:51, Wolfram v.Kiparski <astronwolf@...> wrote:


I can't call him LOL.  His phone fell into a bowl of water.  I'd sound like "blub, blub, glub..." in some sort of pitiful watery way.

Rocketry is fun.
-W


On Tue, Sep 27, 2022 at 2:49 PM Chris Feyerchak <chris_groups_io@...> wrote:
Wolf, can you give John a courtesy call and let him know somebody's working through his address book?

On Tue, Sep 27, 2022, 2:47 PM Wolfram v.Kiparski <astronwolf@...> wrote:
LOL. Easy fix is removing John from the group.  This is not a ban and once he gets his problem under control he can resubscribe.  Sorry John!


Locked Re: Checking Mail

Wolfram v.Kiparski
 

I can't call him LOL.  His phone fell into a bowl of water.  I'd sound like "blub, blub, glub..." in some sort of pitiful watery way.

Rocketry is fun.
-W


On Tue, Sep 27, 2022 at 2:49 PM Chris Feyerchak <chris_groups_io@...> wrote:
Wolf, can you give John a courtesy call and let him know somebody's working through his address book?

On Tue, Sep 27, 2022, 2:47 PM Wolfram v.Kiparski <astronwolf@...> wrote:
LOL. Easy fix is removing John from the group.  This is not a ban and once he gets his problem under control he can resubscribe.  Sorry John!


Locked Re: Checking Mail

Chris Feyerchak
 

Wolf, can you give John a courtesy call and let him know somebody's working through his address book?


On Tue, Sep 27, 2022, 2:47 PM Wolfram v.Kiparski <astronwolf@...> wrote:
LOL. Easy fix is removing John from the group.  This is not a ban and once he gets his problem under control he can resubscribe.  Sorry John!


Locked Re: Checking Mail

Wolfram v.Kiparski
 

LOL. Easy fix is removing John from the group.  This is not a ban and once he gets his problem under control he can resubscribe.  Sorry John!


Locked Re: Checking Mail

Chris Feyerchak
 

Based upon traffic on the Skybuster's list, it looks like John's account could be compromised and being used for a gift card scam. Make sure you authenticate John before committing money.


On Tue, Sep 27, 2022, 2:24 PM Wolfram v.Kiparski <astronwolf@...> wrote:
Hey John,   You do know you just sent this message to over 100 people?  Who are you attempting to contact?
-W


On Tue, Sep 27, 2022, 1:29 PM John Ulizzi <jaulizzi@...> wrote:
How are you doing

Did you get my email

Please email me back (Can't take calls, the cell phone fell in a bowl of water this last night)

Thank you,
John Ulizzi


Locked Re: Checking Mail

John Ulizzi <jaulizzi@...>
 


It you i wanted to email, Glad you are doing fine and keeping safe. I am sorry to bother you, I'm unavailable over the phone, I am only here with my iPad. I just need to get an Apple gift card for a Cancer patient. It's her birthday. I promised her a gift card, but I can't do this now because currently I'm traveling for a week to Bainbridge Island. Can you get it from any store around you? I'll pay back as soon as possible. Kindly let me know if you can handle this, so I can tell you the amount and how to get it to me.

Thanks
John Ulizzi
On Tuesday, September 27, 2022, 11:24:31 AM PDT, Wolfram v.Kiparski <astronwolf@...> wrote:


Hey John,   You do know you just sent this message to over 100 people?  Who are you attempting to contact?
-W


On Tue, Sep 27, 2022, 1:29 PM John Ulizzi <jaulizzi@...> wrote:
How are you doing

Did you get my email

Please email me back (Can't take calls, the cell phone fell in a bowl of water this last night)

Thank you,
John Ulizzi


Locked Re: Checking Mail

Wolfram v.Kiparski
 

Hey John,   You do know you just sent this message to over 100 people?  Who are you attempting to contact?
-W


On Tue, Sep 27, 2022, 1:29 PM John Ulizzi <jaulizzi@...> wrote:
How are you doing

Did you get my email

Please email me back (Can't take calls, the cell phone fell in a bowl of water this last night)

Thank you,
John Ulizzi


Locked Checking Mail

John Ulizzi <jaulizzi@...>
 

How are you doing

Did you get my email

Please email me back (Can't take calls, the cell phone fell in a bowl of water this last night)

Thank you,
John Ulizzi


Locked NOGO for Launch this Saturday, September 24, 2022 #nogo

Wolfram v.Kiparski
 

While the forecast calls for fairly nice weather, the prevailing winds from the south forces us to scrub the launch.  South winds are unfavorable at Harmon because:

1. Model rockets tend to weathercock into the wind, which can put them across the street over the houses.  If the recovery system completely fails, they can (and have) landed near a house after following a ballistic trajectory.

2. A south wind tends to blow our rockets into the woods.

The launch is scrubbed.  Next date is Saturday, October 8.  See you then.
-Wolf
MTMA President


Locked Event: MTMA Community Model Rocket and NRC Launch - Saturday, September 24, 2022 #cal-invite

Group Notification <noreply@...>
 

MTMA Community Model Rocket and NRC Launch

When:
Saturday, September 24, 2022
10:00am to 3:00pm
(UTC-04:00) America/New York

Where:
http://maps.google.com/?q=Harmon%20Flying%20Field%2c%20619%20Bartlett%20Rd%2c%20Aurora%2c%20OH%2044202

Organizer: MTMA

View Event

Description:
This is a public model rocket launch to be conducted in accordance with the NAR Model Rocket Safety Code ( https://www.nar.org/safety-information/model-rocket-safety-code/) and MTMA launch rules and procedures.  Anyone is invited to attend.  This is not a High Power launch.

  • There is a $5 per person fee for non-members.  Children and young people of school age fly for free.
  • Non-members are limited to 10 N-s impulse maximum (C motor), no staging, and no clusters. 
  • All models are subject to a safety check prior to launch.
  • Flight cards are required for each launch.

Cub Scouts:
  There will be a large Pack of Cub Scouts on site from 10:00 a.m. until sometime around Noon.  Launch priority will be granted for Cub Scouts and their families during this time.

Launch window:  Launch starts at 10:00 am.  Please arrive earlier rather than later. We will fly until 3:00 pm, or until everyone has had enough and goes home. We may even stay late - no guarantees.  If you arrive later in the day, you may find that we have already flown and packed up. In the event of poor flying conditions, the event will be canceled.  There is no planned rain date.  Monitor our message board at https://mtma.groups.io/g/public/topics for updates.

NRC Info:  You can fly all NRC events, but you need to bring your own eggs and altimeters.  Eggs and altimeters will be checked by the Contest Director. 

Safety info:  Leave your shorts and sandals at home.  Be prepared for the outdoors.  You may be exposed to sun, heat, ticks, abrasive vegetation, and a lot of walking.  Plenty of water, a snack, light-colored clothing, long pants, and sturdy shoes/boots are highly recommended.


Locked Re: NOGO for Launch this Saturday, September 10, 2022 #nogo

JohnP
 

Yes and no.  To my knowledge,  Mr. Barber is still the principle owner, but Kyle,  the minority owner who was running an aircraft repair facility,  has moved on to other things.


On Sat, Sep 10, 2022, 10:34 AM Tom Augustyn via groups.io <taugy=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
From my understanding Barber Field is under new ownership. Has anyone reached out to them? Skydiving is seasonal at Barber Field. That being said maybe we could reach out to new ownership and schedule off-seasonal launch dates. We could set up playing the winds and landscape to our favor.


-----Original Message-----
From: JohnP <partridgespam@...>
To: public@mtma.groups.io
Sent: Sat, Sep 10, 2022 9:49 am
Subject: Re: [MTMA] NOGO for Launch this Saturday, September 10, 2022 #nogo

That said, numbers 4 and 5 are basically the same in Aurora.  Barber field is so much bigger that even setting up sub-optimally gives you a lot more room.  I admit that since I live 5 minutes away, I'm a little biased, but I like Barber field much more than the park in Aurora.  Except for one house, Barber could be a HPR field. 

On Sat, Sep 10, 2022, 9:04 AM Gary Stricker via groups.io <keystric=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
What was wrong with Barber airport 
1. bean fields 
2. planes landing
3. sky divers landing
4.had to set up where the owner wanted even if it was not favorable for the winds
5. trees ( the times I was there I saw 4 rockets land in the trees
6. It was a long ride to pay a fee and with all the above wrong with it

On Sep 9, 2022, at 10:32 PM, Wolfram v.Kiparski <astronwolf@...> wrote:


It didn't work out for us.  It wasn't that good of a place to fly.
-W

On Fri, Sep 9, 2022, 10:29 PM John Ulizzi <jaulizzi@...> wrote:
What ever happened with Barber Airport? That really seemed like a cool place …

John]


Locked Re: NOGO for Launch this Saturday, September 10, 2022 #nogo

Wolfram v.Kiparski
 

On Sat, Sep 10, 2022 at 10:04 AM, JohnP wrote:
That said, numbers 4 and 5 are basically the same in Aurora.  Barber field is so much bigger that even setting up sub-optimally gives you a lot more room.  I admit that since I live 5 minutes away, I'm a little biased, but I like Barber field much more than the park in Aurora.  Except for one house, Barber could be a HPR field.
number 4 @ Harmon - not really - at least not in my experience of setting up as many as two launches per month for the past few years. 

number 5 - we lost more rockets to the trees in one month @ Barber than we did in several years at Harmon.  Observations all based on years of launch attendance, of course.

MTMA considered Barber as a launch site 20 years ago, and it turned out to be unsuitable then.  We verified exactly why it is unsuitable.  Sure, it looks good.  But in practice, it was "sub-optimal" in ways that made Harmon look like the best field in the world.   The parachute club didn't want us flying on the field.  They didn't even want to see us standing around out there.  The landowner responded by attempting to micro-manage our launches.  The situation became untenable.  Barber may seem better than Harmon, but when the people who actually bust their butts to provide a place where you can just show up and fly rockets are telling you than Barber was unsuitable - please believe them.  We're not flying down their just because we're lazy or set in our ways.
-W


Locked Re: NOGO for Launch this Saturday, September 10, 2022 #nogo

Tom Augustyn
 

From my understanding Barber Field is under new ownership. Has anyone reached out to them? Skydiving is seasonal at Barber Field. That being said maybe we could reach out to new ownership and schedule off-seasonal launch dates. We could set up playing the winds and landscape to our favor.


-----Original Message-----
From: JohnP <partridgespam@...>
To: public@mtma.groups.io
Sent: Sat, Sep 10, 2022 9:49 am
Subject: Re: [MTMA] NOGO for Launch this Saturday, September 10, 2022 #nogo

That said, numbers 4 and 5 are basically the same in Aurora.  Barber field is so much bigger that even setting up sub-optimally gives you a lot more room.  I admit that since I live 5 minutes away, I'm a little biased, but I like Barber field much more than the park in Aurora.  Except for one house, Barber could be a HPR field. 

On Sat, Sep 10, 2022, 9:04 AM Gary Stricker via groups.io <keystric=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
What was wrong with Barber airport 
1. bean fields 
2. planes landing
3. sky divers landing
4.had to set up where the owner wanted even if it was not favorable for the winds
5. trees ( the times I was there I saw 4 rockets land in the trees
6. It was a long ride to pay a fee and with all the above wrong with it

On Sep 9, 2022, at 10:32 PM, Wolfram v.Kiparski <astronwolf@...> wrote:


It didn't work out for us.  It wasn't that good of a place to fly.
-W

On Fri, Sep 9, 2022, 10:29 PM John Ulizzi <jaulizzi@...> wrote:
What ever happened with Barber Airport? That really seemed like a cool place …

John]


Locked Re: NOGO for Launch this Saturday, September 10, 2022 #nogo

JohnP
 

That said, numbers 4 and 5 are basically the same in Aurora.  Barber field is so much bigger that even setting up sub-optimally gives you a lot more room.  I admit that since I live 5 minutes away, I'm a little biased, but I like Barber field much more than the park in Aurora.  Except for one house, Barber could be a HPR field. 


On Sat, Sep 10, 2022, 9:04 AM Gary Stricker via groups.io <keystric=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
What was wrong with Barber airport 
1. bean fields 
2. planes landing
3. sky divers landing
4.had to set up where the owner wanted even if it was not favorable for the winds
5. trees ( the times I was there I saw 4 rockets land in the trees
6. It was a long ride to pay a fee and with all the above wrong with it

On Sep 9, 2022, at 10:32 PM, Wolfram v.Kiparski <astronwolf@...> wrote:


It didn't work out for us.  It wasn't that good of a place to fly.
-W

On Fri, Sep 9, 2022, 10:29 PM John Ulizzi <jaulizzi@...> wrote:
What ever happened with Barber Airport? That really seemed like a cool place …

John]


Locked Night launch

Gary Stricker
 

Photos from our recent night launch


Locked Re: NOGO for Launch this Saturday, September 10, 2022 #nogo

Gary Stricker
 

What was wrong with Barber airport 
1. bean fields 
2. planes landing
3. sky divers landing
4.had to set up where the owner wanted even if it was not favorable for the winds
5. trees ( the times I was there I saw 4 rockets land in the trees
6. It was a long ride to pay a fee and with all the above wrong with it

On Sep 9, 2022, at 10:32 PM, Wolfram v.Kiparski <astronwolf@...> wrote:


It didn't work out for us.  It wasn't that good of a place to fly.
-W

On Fri, Sep 9, 2022, 10:29 PM John Ulizzi <jaulizzi@...> wrote:
What ever happened with Barber Airport? That really seemed like a cool place …

John]


Locked Re: NOGO for Launch this Saturday, September 10, 2022 #nogo

Wolfram v.Kiparski
 

It didn't work out for us.  It wasn't that good of a place to fly.
-W


On Fri, Sep 9, 2022, 10:29 PM John Ulizzi <jaulizzi@...> wrote:
What ever happened with Barber Airport? That really seemed like a cool place …

John]

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Locked Re: NOGO for Launch this Saturday, September 10, 2022 #nogo

John Ulizzi <jaulizzi@...>
 

What ever happened with Barber Airport? That really seemed like a cool place …

John


On Sep 9, 2022, at 2:51 PM, Wolfram v.Kiparski <astronwolf@...> wrote:

On Fri, Sep 9, 2022 at 09:18 AM, Tom Alcock wrote:
Any chance of securing a better launch location than Harmon?? Reason being, the grass is too high and the nearby homes are too close as examples.
 
Without more people actively involved with the club this isn't happening fast enough.  This year we followed-up on two good leads that didn't pan out.  There doesn't seem to be enough volunteers to help do what Mark Recktenwald suggested.

BTW, the grass at Harmon isn't all that bad this year.  But Harmon is a small field.  I'd drive 2-hours just to get to a decent field to fly high performance model rockets that need a lot of room.  Most people balk at driving more than 30-minutes away.
-W