The MTMA group was created as a way of notifying its members of MTMA
events, news, etc. Anyone who is interested in rocketry in the
northeast Ohio area can join the group. It doesn't matter if you
belong to one of the many rocketry organizations or not.

This is not a discussion group. Discussions on subjects related to
model rocketry and high power rocketry are held on the Usenet
Newsgroup news://rec.models.rockets (RMR).

Messages posted to MTMA@... will be automatically sent to all
members of the MTMA group, and, therefore, should be reserved for
official notifications of MTMA events, and important news and other
information deemed relevant by the moderator. At this time, the
moderator will review all messages sent to the group before they are
posted. The moderator has better things to do with his time and would
just as soon not have to do this; however, it is in the moderator's
best interest that this group become the main means of the
dissemination of group information. To this end, he will do
everything
in his power to see that members of this group are not inconvenienced
by their membership (i.e., there should be no increase in unwanted
e-mail).

Mark Recktenwald
MTMA Group Moderator

The Mantua Township Missile Agency (MTMA) is a charted Section (#606)
of the National Association of Rocketry (http://www.nar.org). We met
on the Usenet Newsgroup news://rec.models.rockets (RMR) and began
flying rockets together in the spring of 1999.

We hold our events in the greater Kent, Ohio area. Launches are
currently held at one of two sites: Pioneer Trail Field in Mantua
Township, Portage County, Ohio; or the Summit County Fairgrounds in
Tallmadge, Ohio.

For more information, see our web page:
http://web.raex.com/~markndeb/rockets/mtma/index.htm

Our current launch schedule is posted on our web page at:
http://web.raex.com/~markndeb/rockets/mtma/launches.htm

Mark Recktenwald
MTMA Group Moderator

This group replaces the e-mail address lists manually maintained by
the officers of MTMA.

The original list was nothing more than a few e-mail addresses of
some
guys who were posting messages on RMR and decided to get together to
fly some rockets. Seven flyers and their families attended our first
launch in May 1999.

As other area rocketeers were found on RMR, they were invited to
join.
By the end of 1999, we decided to form our own NAR section. The
moderator's personal web page was expanded and an area added for the
MTMA web page. A form was placed on the web page for folks to enter
their e-mail address. It said: "If you live near Kent and wish to
join
us for our next launch, enter your name and e-mail address in the
boxes below and click ''Subscribe''. Your e-mail address will be
added
to our distribution list."

The list has now grown to over 60 members and is a bit unwieldy for
us
to maintain and update.

Mark Recktenwald
MTMA Group Moderator

As a "side-effect" of creating this group, there are several features
built in to eGroups that will be nice additions to the tools
currently at the disposal of MTMA e-mail list members.

Shared file storage:
Although major file storage is still up to the MTMA web site and the
individual members' sites.

Shared file distribution:
Although ABMR should still be primary distribution channel, many do
not have access to it, particular with the re-structuring of Remarq
(maybe someone should establish a group on eGroups to replace ABMR).

Calendar:
Although the MTMA web site is still the primary point of reference
for this (http://web.raex.com/~markndeb/rockets/mtma/launches.htm).

Chat:
Although not intended to replace other rocketry chat groups or
individuals using instant messaging applications, the eGroups Chat
feature could be used to hold "virtual meetings".

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I feel I must reiterate: THIS IS NOT A DISCUSSION GROUP. Discussions
on subjects related to model rocketry and high power rocketry are
held on the Usenet Newsgroup news://rec.models.rockets (RMR) and
shall be considered off-topic in the MTMA group. The moderator is
easy to get along with, and has a lot of patience. NOTE: that last
sentence reads "a lot" and not "an infinite amount".

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Mark Recktenwald
MTMA Group Moderator

As you know, today's launch just got canceled. I was talking to Tod when
we made the decision and he suggested we try to hold a meeting today.
Since Chuck is not going to be available, I said we ought to wait.

Technically, tomorrow is our "last Monday of odd numbered months"
standing meeting date. I know it's too late now, but does anyone have
any suggestions for a possible meeting date between now and our next
launch on October 8th?

What about trying out the "Chat" feature of eGroups and having an online
meeting there?

By the way, what do you guys think of eGroups? Should I post an
announcement to the group and make the switch?

--
Mark Recktenwald
Stow, Ohio
NAR #77432, Level 1, Co V.P./Sec'y MTMA, NAR Section #606
MTMA web page: http://web.raex.com/~markndeb/rockets/mtma/

We would like to remind you of this upcoming event.

Launch at Summit County Fairgrounds

Date: Sunday, October 8, 2000
Time: 9:00AM - 4:00PM EDT (GMT-04:00)

S.R. 91 (North Avenue)
Tallmadge, Ohio
http://web.raex.com/~markndeb/rockets/mtma/scfg.htm
Setup at 9:00 am
Range opens at 10:00 am

Our next launch will be this Sunday, October 8, 2000 at the Summit
County Fairgrounds. Setup 9:00 a.m., range open from 10:00 a.m. until
4:00 p.m.

At this time, I have no details on our waiver. Until we get word from
Stan, LMR rules (FAR 101.22) will be in effect.

The Summit County Fairgrounds are located on the northeast quadrant of
the intersection of North Avenue (S.R.91) and Howe Road in Tallmadge,
Ohio. The launch range will be set up in the northwest portion of the
fairgrounds property, in a turf parking area, accessible from S.R. 91,
just north of the soccer fields.

Here's a URL to a MapsOnUs map of the area:

http://MapsOnUs.switchboard.com/bin/maps-map/usr=~new/mapCentScale=-81.43940%2c41.12390%2c0.40?SelectItems=-&AddMarker=Marker=END%09LL=-81.43940%2c41.12390%09Name=End+Point+%28Set+by+click%29&SessionSrc=SendMail.m

If your browser clips or wraps the above link, you'll have to cut and
paste everything together from
"http://MapsOnUs..."
to
"...SessionSrc=SendMail.m"

The label "E" on their map stands for "End Point" and can be used in
their "Route Planner" to plan a route from your home to the site. To do
this, click on their link to "Plan a Route" on the left side of the
page. On the next page, click the "Enter Address" button under "Start of
Route". Enter your address, City, and State; then click "SET START
ADDRESS". On the resulting page, click on "Plan Route". You'll then be
presented with a full map from start to finish and turn-by-turn
directions.

Note: In FAR Sec. 101.22, Large model rockets are defined as "model
rockets that use not more than 125 grams of propellant ... and that
weigh not more than 1,500 grams, including the propellant".

For those of you who haven't signed up for the eGroups mailing list,
please take the time to do it soon, this list of 60-plus names has
gotten too big to maintain manually.

To subscribe to the MTMA group on eGroups, simply send an e-mail to:
MTMA-subscribe@...

If your mail reader automates links for you, just click on the line
below:
mailto:MTMA-subscribe@...?subject=Subscribe MTMA

--
Mark Recktenwald
Stow, Ohio
NAR #77432, Level 1, Co V.P./Sec'y MTMA, NAR Section #606
MTMA web page: http://web.raex.com/~markndeb/rockets/mtma/

The City of Tallmadge will be holding a heritage festival this weekend.
A parade is scheduled for 11:00 a.m. The parade will form at the Weaver
School, just south of the Fairgrounds. During the parade, access to the
Fairgrounds from Howe Avenue or from the south along S.R. 91 will not be
possible.

If you will be arriving for the launch between 10:30 a.m. and 1:00 p.m.,
plan on coming in on S.R. 91 from the north (Stow or Munroe Falls end).

Hey Stan, any word on the waiver?

Once again, Sunday, October 8, 2000, Summit County Fairgrounds, setup at
9:00 a.m., range open from 10:00 a.m. until 4:00 p.m. BE THERE!

Hello, anyone check out eGroups yet?
MTMA-subscribe@...
mailto:MTMA-subscribe@...?subject=Subscribe_MTMA

Don't forget to reply to the confirmation e-mail that they will send
you. I see some of you subscribed but didn't confirm yet. It won't work
till you do.

--
Mark Recktenwald
Stow, Ohio
NAR #77432, Level 1, Co V.P./Sec'y MTMA, NAR Section #606
MTMA web page: http://web.raex.com/~markndeb/rockets/mtma/

** 10/8 LAUNCH CANCELED **

Due the Tallmadge Heritage Festival Parade, the folks at the Summit
County Fairgrounds (SCFG) do not want us launching this Sunday.

We could change over to the Pioneer Trail site, but due to the weather
we are supposed to get, that site will likely be a cold mud hole by
Sunday.

I would like to schedule a launch at SCFG as soon as possible to prove
to myself that it can be done. I am going to try to get us permission
for the weekend of October 21/22.

More to come later.

Thanks to those that have recently signed-up for eGroups. The folks with
the following addresses signed up but did not reply to the confirmation
message:

dbaker@...
jdlemhut@...
jim_phillips@...
PBixler@...

--
Mark Recktenwald
Stow, Ohio
NAR #77432, Level 1, Co V.P./Sec'y MTMA, NAR Section #606
MTMA web page: http://web.raex.com/~markndeb/rockets/mtma/

Figgered I'd try out this newfangled egroups thingy...

Coming back from the Aurora library today, I noticed Mr. Carlton's harvested
the corn in the eastern field at Pioneer Trail! Cool! Flyable area has now
more than doubled. Hopefully, he'll have the corn in the western field out
soon too!

Yours in grain...

Tod A. Hilty, NAR #72099
Hilty Information Systems
Mantua Township Missile Agency

Great Tod,

Now just fix the weather and we'll be good to go.

Mike

Hello MTMA,

I just got a new email address, and subscribed to the MTMA mailserver.
The problem I have is that I want to change my email address on my
user profile on egroups (I am subscribed to several other mailing lists
there). I can't do it because "wolf@..." is "already in use,"
and I need a password for the "wolf@..." account in order to edit
it. Seems like I have to delete my old profile, and resubscribe using
my new profile.

What is the password?

Missed the last two scheduled launches, but that only allows me and
my cousin to get "more ready" for the next one. Hope we get an
Indian Summer weekend soon.

Regards,

Wolf

Hi Wolf!

At 03:34 PM 10/10/00 -0400, Wolfram v.Kiparski wrote:

Hello MTMA,

I just got a new email address, and subscribed to the MTMA mailserver.
The problem I have is that I want to change my email address on my
user profile on egroups (I am subscribed to several other mailing lists
there). I can't do it because "wolf@..." is "already in use,"
and I need a password for the "wolf@..." account in order to edit
it. Seems like I have to delete my old profile, and resubscribe using
my new profile.

What is the password?

That'd be a "Mark"... <g>

Next launch is slated for October 21/22 (yep, a "two day-er"!) at the Summit
County Fairgrounds. Our Pioneer Trail field is also currently being cleared
of that noxious weed they call corn, so we seem to be in for a fine "fall of
flying"!

Cheers!

Tod A. Hilty
Hilty Information Systems

Hilty Information Systems wrote:

<snip>

Next launch is slated for October 21/22 (yep, a "two day-er"!) at the Summit
County Fairgrounds. Our Pioneer Trail field is also currently being cleared
of that noxious weed they call corn, so we seem to be in for a fine "fall of
flying"!

The two-day launch has not yet been confirmed by the folks at SCFG.
Heck, I'll be happy if they give us the OK for just one of those dates,
we have yet to get that far with them.

--
Mark Recktenwald
Stow, Ohio
Moderator of MTMA on eGroups: http://www.egroups.com/group/MTMA
NAR #77432, Level 1, Co V.P./Sec'y MTMA, NAR Section #606
MTMA web page: http://web.raex.com/~markndeb/rockets/mtma/

OK, Ok... I've been kicking around the idea of hosting an MTMA holiday party
at the palatial Hilty Compound in the weeks to come...

It could be a "carry in" sorta thing with the Hilty family providing the
meat, and you guys could bring in everything else...

Um, my special "atomic chicken wings" on the grill would be a nice choice..

Awards (of course) would be necessary, but a date, sometime during the next
couple of months that would work for everyone would be even better...

Anyone have any good suggestions for weekends during November, and December?

Comments?

Tod

Our next launch will be this Sunday, October 22, 2000, at the Summit
County Fairgrounds. Setup at 9:00 a.m., range open from 10:00 a.m. until
about 4:00 p.m.

Permission from the Summit County Fairgrounds was confirmed today
(finally!).

No word from Stan yet on the waiver. I assume we will get the usual
waiver to 3,500 feet. If not, LMR rules (FAR 101.22) will be in effect.

Stan, Tod, and I will bring our ground support equipment. I also have
Chuck's Trigger(tm), his four-rod rack-launch system. If you want to
bring your own gear, no problem, if we have too much just leave it in
the car.

For those not familiar with the fairgrounds, we will be in the
northwestern portion of the fairground's property, on the east side of
North Avenue (S.R. 91), north of Howe Avenue and the Tallmadge soccer
fields. The range will be set up in a grass parking area, a mowed field
about 25 acres in size with over 100 acres of former farmland (tall
weeds) to the north.

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DIRECTIONS:

Here is a URL to a MapsOnUs map:

http://MapsOnUs.switchboard.com/bin/maps-map/usr=~new/mapCentScale=-81.80869%2c40.85472%2c0.40?SelectItems=-&AddMarker=Marker=END%09LL=-81.80869%2c40.85472%09Name=End+Point+%28Set+by+click%29&SessionSrc=SendMail.m

If your browser clips or wraps the above link, you'll have to cut and
paste everything together from
"http://MapsOnUs..."
to
"...SessionSrc=SendMail.m"

The label "E" on their map stands for "End Point" and can be used in
their "Route Planner" to plan a route from your home to the site. To do
this, click on their link to "Plan a Route" on the left side of the
page. On the next page, click the "Enter Address" button under "Start of
Route". Enter your address, City, and State; then click "SET START
ADDRESS". On the resulting page, click on "Plan Route". You'll then be
presented with a full map from start to finish and turn-by-turn
directions.

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NOTE:

In FAR Sec. 101.22, Large model rockets are defined as "model rockets
that use not more than 125 grams of propellant ... and that weigh not
more than 1,500 grams, including the propellant".

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MTMA on eGroups:

If you haven't subscribed your e-mail address to the MTMA group on
eGroups, please take a minute to do that now. We currently have 30
members on eGroups, but 38 folks are still on the old
manually-maintained address book.

There are two ways to subscribe to the MTMA group on eGroups:

1. Send an e-mail to:
MTMA-subscribe@...
or if your mail reader makes automatic links,
click the following link
mailto:MTMA-subscribe@...?subject=Subscribe

2. Go to:
http://www.egroups.com/group/MTMA
and click the link to "Subscribe"

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See you Sunday!

--
Mark Recktenwald
Stow, Ohio
Moderator of MTMA on eGroups: http://www.egroups.com/group/MTMA
NAR #77432, Level 1, Co V.P./Sec'y MTMA, NAR Section #606
MTMA web page: http://web.raex.com/~markndeb/rockets/mtma/

The link to the map in the announcement was to the wrong site!

Here is the correct URL:

http://MapsOnUs.switchboard.com/bin/maps-map/usr=~new/mapCentScale=-81.43940%2c41.12390%2c0.40?SelectItems=-&AddMarker=Marker=END%09LL=-81.43940%2c41.12390%09Name=End+Point+%28Set+by+click%29&SessionSrc=SendMail.m

If your browser clips or wraps the above link, you'll have to cut and
paste everything together from
"http://MapsOnUs..."
to
"...SessionSrc=SendMail.m"

The label "E" on their map stands for "End Point" and can be used in
their "Route Planner" to plan a route from your home to the site. To do
this, click on their link to "Plan a Route" on the left side of the
page. On the next page, click the "Enter Address" button under "Start of
Route". Enter your address, City, and State; then click "SET START
ADDRESS". On the resulting page, click on "Plan Route". You'll then be
presented with a full map from start to finish and turn-by-turn
directions.

Sorry for the confusion.

--
Mark Recktenwald
Stow, Ohio
Moderator of MTMA on eGroups: http://www.egroups.com/group/MTMA
NAR #77432, Level 1, Co V.P./Sec'y MTMA, NAR Section #606
MTMA web page: http://web.raex.com/~markndeb/rockets/mtma/

We would like to remind you of this upcoming event.

Launch at Summit County Fairgrounds

Date: Sunday, October 22, 2000
Time: 9:00AM - 4:00PM EDT (GMT-04:00)

S.R. 91 (North Avenue)
Tallmadge, Ohio
http://web.raex.com/~markndeb/rockets/mtma/scfg.htm
Setup at 9:00 a.m.
Range opens at 10:00 a.m.

If you haven't subscribed your e-mail address to the MTMA group on
eGroups, please take a minute to do that now. We currently have 30
members on eGroups, but 38 folks are still on the old
manually-maintained address book.

My new email address was used to subscribe to the MTMA list.
My old NCCW address in the manually-maintained list should just be
deleted.

Wolf