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locked Re: Moving On

Barry Lynch <belynch@...>
 

poo
don't give up on us yet!
your flights are too spectacular.
btw
I bet we could all pitch in and use this great stuff together! The pad
alone is worth half or more of the asking price- I want to contribute my
$100 donation - any other takers? The club could use the rods and
launchers.
Barry

----- Original Message -----
From: "Randy Miller" <rmiller40@...>
To: <MTMA@...>
Sent: Monday, January 01, 2001 3:05 PM
Subject: [MTMA] Moving On


Hello all!! I hope everyone had a great holiday season. I would just
like to tell everyone that over the last few years I have had a great
time flying with MTMA and to see this group go from a few guys on RMR
to a formal group of flyers has been awesome. This group had really
grown and I am proud to have been a part of it.

Well now for the bad stuff. I am giving up the hobby of rocketry to
pursue other interests. Unfortunatly I just don't have enough time
for the hobby anymore. Maybe someday I will get back into it..or
maybe become a knowledgable spectator.... Like someone else we know
and love...LOL. Of course if I would get back into it in the future
that would make me a BBAR?? I am officially resigning as MTMA
section advisor. Hey Tod.... I need to send you this advisor stuff
and the section certificate in the mail so send me your address...<G>
Along with getting out of a hobby as intense as Rocketry goes getting
rid of a bunch of stuff. The following is a list of everything that I
want to part with. I figured I would offer it to the group before I
stuck it up on Ebay.... I won't sell the stuff individually
though...that is to much of a hassle... so it is for sell as a
bundle....Don't worry Stan, Your muli launch controller is not listed
in this bundle....LOL...Oh and BTW... I know after my last two L2
attempts it does not seem like it, but my rockets are all build and
painted well.... and all have flown several times...ask Stan..He
knows how I build them......and No comments Barry...<G>

Here is what I got: $400 takes all
Please feel free to email me if you have questions.
--------------------------------------------------------------------
Rocket Vision Quad Pad (high power pad)
1/4, 3/8, 1/2, and 1 inch launch rods... all 6' from Rocket vision.
also some Estes rods

Sure Fire Nicad Launch controller with a zillion feet of cord. (Has
never failed me and has ignited some pretty big Motors......)

Rockets:
2 LOC Auras - Build
Loc Mini Magg - Build
Loc Starburst - Build
Loc Graduator - Build
Loc Graduator - Unbuild
Loc Lil Nuke - Build
Loc Norad - Build
Loc Onyx - Build - Needs Nose Cone
2x Cherokee D (build from Loc parts)
PML Bull Puppy (partially constructed) all decals and parts are there

Estes
Bull Pup - Unbuild
Alpha - Unbuild
2 Laser Torpedos - build
Ranger - build
Big Bertha - Build
Black Brant -Build
Avenger - build
Fatboy - Build
Silver Comet - Build
Firebird - Build
Vaughn Brother Sputnik - Unbuild
Quest Spin Fin - unbuild
Micro Scale Saturn 1B - unbuild

Dr Rocket RMS Motor Casings
1 set of 29mm closures
1 29/180 case
1 29/240 case
Areotech 29/40-120 RMS casing (never used)

RMS Motors
1 - F40-7w
1 - H97J -short
1 - G75J-medium
2 - H128W-short
One Shot Motors
2 - E30-4t
2 - E26-5
Various Estes motors 1/2As - Ds
several types of ignitors

Estes Catalogs 1972, 1983, and I Think a couple of others as well.
Some Estes Educator stuff
Magazines (sport rocketry, HP Rocketry, and Extream Rocketry)
LDRS and BALLs Videos (They are quality DUPES of Stan's Videos)

Various HP and MR pieces, parts, and other stuff
chutes
Nose Cones
Body tubes
Centering Rings
Motor adaptors
Motor tubes
shock cord material
Decals
anything else I find as I am packing up the stuff
--------------------------------------------------------

Well.... that about does it If you are interested send me an email

Take Care and happy new year
Randy
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locked Moving On

Randy Miller <rmiller40@...>
 

Hello all!! I hope everyone had a great holiday season. I would just
like to tell everyone that over the last few years I have had a great
time flying with MTMA and to see this group go from a few guys on RMR
to a formal group of flyers has been awesome. This group had really
grown and I am proud to have been a part of it.

Well now for the bad stuff. I am giving up the hobby of rocketry to
pursue other interests. Unfortunatly I just don't have enough time
for the hobby anymore. Maybe someday I will get back into it..or
maybe become a knowledgable spectator.... Like someone else we know
and love...LOL. Of course if I would get back into it in the future
that would make me a BBAR?? I am officially resigning as MTMA
section advisor. Hey Tod.... I need to send you this advisor stuff
and the section certificate in the mail so send me your address...<G>
Along with getting out of a hobby as intense as Rocketry goes getting
rid of a bunch of stuff. The following is a list of everything that I
want to part with. I figured I would offer it to the group before I
stuck it up on Ebay.... I won't sell the stuff individually
though...that is to much of a hassle... so it is for sell as a
bundle....Don't worry Stan, Your muli launch controller is not listed
in this bundle....LOL...Oh and BTW... I know after my last two L2
attempts it does not seem like it, but my rockets are all build and
painted well.... and all have flown several times...ask Stan..He
knows how I build them......and No comments Barry...<G>

Here is what I got: $400 takes all
Please feel free to email me if you have questions.
--------------------------------------------------------------------
Rocket Vision Quad Pad (high power pad)
1/4, 3/8, 1/2, and 1 inch launch rods... all 6' from Rocket vision.
also some Estes rods

Sure Fire Nicad Launch controller with a zillion feet of cord. (Has
never failed me and has ignited some pretty big Motors......)

Rockets:
2 LOC Auras - Build
Loc Mini Magg - Build
Loc Starburst - Build
Loc Graduator - Build
Loc Graduator - Unbuild
Loc Lil Nuke - Build
Loc Norad - Build
Loc Onyx - Build - Needs Nose Cone
2x Cherokee D (build from Loc parts)
PML Bull Puppy (partially constructed) all decals and parts are there

Estes
Bull Pup - Unbuild
Alpha - Unbuild
2 Laser Torpedos - build
Ranger - build
Big Bertha - Build
Black Brant -Build
Avenger - build
Fatboy - Build
Silver Comet - Build
Firebird - Build
Vaughn Brother Sputnik - Unbuild
Quest Spin Fin - unbuild
Micro Scale Saturn 1B - unbuild

Dr Rocket RMS Motor Casings
1 set of 29mm closures
1 29/180 case
1 29/240 case
Areotech 29/40-120 RMS casing (never used)

RMS Motors
1 - F40-7w
1 - H97J -short
1 - G75J-medium
2 - H128W-short
One Shot Motors
2 - E30-4t
2 - E26-5
Various Estes motors 1/2As - Ds
several types of ignitors

Estes Catalogs 1972, 1983, and I Think a couple of others as well.
Some Estes Educator stuff
Magazines (sport rocketry, HP Rocketry, and Extream Rocketry)
LDRS and BALLs Videos (They are quality DUPES of Stan's Videos)

Various HP and MR pieces, parts, and other stuff
chutes
Nose Cones
Body tubes
Centering Rings
Motor adaptors
Motor tubes
shock cord material
Decals
anything else I find as I am packing up the stuff
--------------------------------------------------------

Well.... that about does it If you are interested send me an email

Take Care and happy new year
Randy
rmiller40@...


locked New Years

M <mleffler@...>
 

Wishing everyone a safe and happy New Years.

Mike, Karen, Kevin, & Kristen Leffler


locked Re: Estes Saturn V

Barry Lynch <belynch@...>
 

Dude
If you want to beaf up that thing my 3.90 centering rings fit it great and
the 29mm motor mount gives you more options - How do I know this? Someone
called this week and I had to open the one I purchased last year (for 50
bucks) and I was not too excited with the thickness - If so - 3 CR-3.90-1.14
rings and a stick of 29mm motor mount is pretty cheap at Great Lakes when
you go. The BT-3.90 is also a pretty strong airframe if you are switching
parts out- Good Luck! I can't wait to see yours fly.

Barry

----- Original Message -----
From: "Joe Angelucci" <joe_angelucci@...>
To: <MTMA@...>
Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2000 11:15 PM
Subject: Re: [MTMA] Estes Saturn V


Hi Chuck,

thanks for the info. i have been to GLH in the past.
they don't have the V2 kit. it's been out of
production for 20 years. they have a remake of the
smaller one out now. i'm looking for one that my
brother has now (since back then actually). it's fun
to launch and looks impressive.
thanks, Joe


--- castraka@... wrote:
I have also done business with this person and was
very satisfied with the
price and service. Seems to me that Great Lakes
Hobbies is selling these
kits for $39.99 and no shipping (just a drive to
Kirtland). Stan and Barry
have done a bit of business with GLH in the past and
I would like to take a
trip up north to check out some reloads.

Chuck


Subj: [MTMA] Estes Saturn V
Date: 12/28/00 9:17:16 PM Eastern Standard Time
From: mleffler@... (MLeffler)
Reply-to: <A
HREF="mailto:MTMA@...">MTMA@...</A>
To: MTMA@...




Just an FYI. I picked up the 30th anniversary
edition Estes Saturn V kit
from Ebay. The seller is known as Rocketman and
seems to be a husband and
wife team in Minnesota. You can bid, or on any of
the rocketman auctions
without a staring bid, you can purchase the kit
outright for $48.99 + 5.00
shipping. From the entering of my bid to delivery
on my doorstep was 5
days including Christmas.

Happy Holidays to all,

Mike Leffler

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locked Re: Estes Saturn V

Rolland Riehn <rriehnz@...>
 

Hey fellas. Just a newsletter lurker here. I live in VA. "Stans Rocket
Links" is an excellent list! Thanks!

My son and I are just getting into rockets. We launched a couple of the
Estes mini already built "toys" and were less than impressed. We are
building the Sidewinder kit right now. I was sorry to see Rocketvision
close its doors. Their "Starter Kit" looked very interesting.


locked Re: Estes Saturn V

Phoenix7187@...
 

Rocketman is a company, you can visit their website at:
www.the-rocketman.com and yes they are a husband and wife team.


locked Re: Estes Saturn V

Joe Angelucci
 

Hi Chuck,

thanks for the info. i have been to GLH in the past.
they don't have the V2 kit. it's been out of
production for 20 years. they have a remake of the
smaller one out now. i'm looking for one that my
brother has now (since back then actually). it's fun
to launch and looks impressive.
thanks, Joe


--- castraka@... wrote:
I have also done business with this person and was
very satisfied with the
price and service. Seems to me that Great Lakes
Hobbies is selling these
kits for $39.99 and no shipping (just a drive to
Kirtland). Stan and Barry
have done a bit of business with GLH in the past and
I would like to take a
trip up north to check out some reloads.

Chuck


Subj: [MTMA] Estes Saturn V
Date: 12/28/00 9:17:16 PM Eastern Standard Time
From: mleffler@... (MLeffler)
Reply-to: <A
HREF="mailto:MTMA@...">MTMA@...</A>
To: MTMA@...




Just an FYI. I picked up the 30th anniversary
edition Estes Saturn V kit
from Ebay. The seller is known as Rocketman and
seems to be a husband and
wife team in Minnesota. You can bid, or on any of
the rocketman auctions
without a staring bid, you can purchase the kit
outright for $48.99 + 5.00
shipping. From the entering of my bid to delivery
on my doorstep was 5
days including Christmas.

Happy Holidays to all,

Mike Leffler

__________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online!
http://photos.yahoo.com/


locked Estes Saturn V

MLeffler <mleffler@...>
 

Just an FYI.  I picked up the 30th anniversary edition Estes Saturn V kit from Ebay.  The seller is known as Rocketman and seems to be a husband and wife team in Minnesota.  You can bid, or on any of the rocketman auctions without a staring bid, you can purchase the kit outright for $48.99 + 5.00 shipping.  From the entering of my bid to delivery on my doorstep was 5 days including Christmas.
 
Happy Holidays to all,
 
Mike Leffler


locked Re: Estes Saturn V

castraka@...
 

I have also done business with this person and was very satisfied with the
price and service.  Seems to me that Great Lakes Hobbies is selling these
kits for $39.99 and no shipping (just a drive to Kirtland).  Stan and Barry
have done a bit of business with GLH in the past and I would like to take a
trip up north to check out some reloads.

Chuck


Subj: [MTMA] Estes Saturn V
Date: 12/28/00 9:17:16 PM Eastern Standard Time
From:    mleffler@... (MLeffler)
Reply-to: MTMA@...
To:    MTMA@...




Just an FYI.  I picked up the 30th anniversary edition Estes Saturn V kit
from Ebay.  The seller is known as Rocketman and seems to be a husband and
wife team in Minnesota.  You can bid, or on any of the rocketman auctions
without a staring bid, you can purchase the kit outright for $48.99 + 5.00
shipping.  From the entering of my bid to delivery on my doorstep was 5
days including Christmas.

Happy Holidays to all,

Mike Leffler


locked party

WanerDonald <WanerDonald@...>
 

just wanted to say craig , karen ,and I , had a good time at the party. it was very nice.  should have another one in the summer , maybe a MTMA cookout ? I liked the wings.(and the wheat beer). there are a lot of nice people in the MTMA group . I forgot to ask how many members are there ?
                                         thank you
                                              david waner


locked Re: T-MINUS 20:30, AND HOLDING...

castraka@...
 

Tod,

Regrettably I will have to abort my planned mission to the Hilty's.

I was hoping to do a flyby with my brother, who is visiting from Dallas, but
late soccer games ('till 8pm) and a vehicle shortage (the Cutlass went down
last night) have forced me to scrub the mission (including a planned mission
to Mars Models today).

I was really looking forward to this gathering since it's been a while - last
year in the early days of MTMA ;) - since we had time to socialize and share
a couple cold ones.

My apologies to Jenny.

Merry Christmas to all!


Chuck


locked T-MINUS 20:30, AND HOLDING...

Tod Hilty
 

We are at T- 20:30:00 and holding...

The planned hold a T- 20:30:00 has commenced in order to load ETOH stores,
pre-warm the hydrazine systems, and to begin LOX tanking.. Xmas party crew
has begun review of mission targets, and objectives...

Everybody clear on the map!? Very large house, two tone, blue and grey,
picket fence in the front, and a dead '85 Camaro to the north side.. BTW,
it's yours if you can haul it out! The Camaro that is... <g>

Use my driveway as the first approach. I've secured my neighbor's driveway,
and we have clearance from the village to park on the treelawn as necessary...

We will have a "Parking Superintendant" in place in order to direct
potential traffic...

<vbg>

Tod


locked Re: Reminder - Holiday Party at Tod's

Bruce Levison <bsleviso@...>
 

Tod,

I will try to make it in for the party! My wife has to work so I will
only have my two children (Ian and Ben) with me. I hope the weather is
good so the drive will be nice. Where do we park since this sounds like
it will be a rather large party?

Bruce


locked Reminder - Holiday Party at Tod's

MTMA@...
 

We would like to remind you of this upcoming event.

Holiday Party at Tod's

Date: Saturday, December 16, 2000
Time: 7:00PM - 11:00PM EST (GMT-05:00)

For more information, see message 57 at:
http://www.egroups.com/message/MTMA/57

This will take the place of November's bimonthly section
meeting. There are two items on the agenda:
1. 2001 Flight Calendar
2. Fun


locked Re: King Viper 3

Phoenix7187@...
 

Barry's right about that, I don't think you realize how big this rocket
is. 3 H180's is the bare minimum you can get by on and even with the 6
second delays it's a scary flight. I have one if you want to see it.
Let me know and I will bring it to one of the launches. Also it is not
for the beginner, you do have to have a very good understanding of
clustering and should have prior experience with smaller rockets.
Flying it on any H combination would require ignition of all 3 motors
simultaneously to provide a stable flight. If only one motor lights it
may not leave the pad, if two motors light you now have a 12 pound
projectile you don't know which way it's going to go. Also I would not
recommend flying this rocket without an altimeter, too many variables
with 3 motor clusters( one lights late/early) you can have early/late/no
deployment which can cause serious damage to the rockets recovery
system. Rockets of this size and power range should only be flown with
electronics.


locked Re: Map link for Saturday's party.

Mark Recktenwald <m_reckt@...>
 

There's more than one way to loft a cat . . .

Hilty Information Systems wrote:

http://mapsonus.switchboard.com/bin/maps-maponly/usr=~3a369596.eee92.271c.6/c=1/isredir=1/
A much more stable link (the reason why can be discussed in a separate
forum for the geeks who want to know) is the following:

http://MapsOnUs.switchboard.com/bin/maps-map/usr=~new/mapCentScale=-81.22838%2c41.28505%2c0.40?SelectItems=-&AddMarker=Marker=END%09LL=-81.22838%2c41.28505%09Name=End+Point+%2810767+Reservoir+St%2c+Mantua%2c+OH%29&SessionSrc=SendMail.m

If your reader/browser clips or wraps the above link, you'll have to
cut and paste everything together from
"http://MapsOnUs..."
to
"...SessionSrc=SendMail.m"

The label "E" on their map stands for "End Point" and can be used in
their "Route Planner" to plan a route from your home to Tod's. To do
this, click on their link to "Plan a Route" on the left side of the
page. On the next page, click the "Enter Address" button under "Start
of Route". Enter your address, City, and State; then click "SET START
ADDRESS". On the resulting page, click the "Plan Route" button. You'll
then be presented with a full map from start to finish and turn-by-turn
directions.

--
Mark


locked Re: King Viper 3

Barry Lynch <belynch@...>
 

Harry
Man the King Viper 3 is Too big! Level 1 has to be a single motor attempt I
think - I would not fly this rocket on less than 3 H180's - I would suggest
you look at something else. I could make you an EZ-I 65 with a 38mm motor
mount that you could go with an H123 - nice flyer!

As for rail- check out mcmaster.com page 851 I think. I will be donating
one to MTMA this month. It works on BS rail guides or Giantleap rail
buttons. I got a 10 footer there for 32 bucks- food for thought.
Stay away from the King till you have a good grasp of lighting multiple
reloadable motors. I even have a difficult time doing that!

Good luck -- call if you wish to discuss....
Barry

----- Original Message -----
From: <saw7490@...>
To: <MTMA@...>
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2000 2:38 PM
Subject: [MTMA] King Viper 3


Hey Harry Weiss here, Im thinkin' about getting a King Viper 3 for
Christmas(9ft tall,5"dia.) she runs on 3 motors(I'll be proably using
3 g-64-7W,or 3 H-somethings for my lvl. 1 certif.) Can I use this
thing at a normal launch or is it too big.I was online looking at
launch rods and found the x-treme rail 1 6-ft section but it uses
different lugs check it out at Giantleaprocketry.com it is under new
stuff.



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locked Re: King Viper 3

kgholloway@...
 

Regarding the King Viper 3, Level-I Certification, and Extreme Rail launch
systems.

(1) The King Viper 3 is an excellent vehicle but I seem to recall that
rockets using clustered engines can't be used in certification attempts.

(2) The King Viper 3 requires all three engines loaded to fly correctly.
If you use 3 Aerotech G64-(?)W engines you would exceed the total impulse
of 320 N-s allowed under LMR (Large Model Rocket) rules.

(3) Finally some good news. The "Extreme Rail" as advertised by Giant Leap
Rocketry is perfectly compatible with Blacksky rail guides. I flew my
Estes' "MaxiAlpha-3" off of an extreme rail twice last fall at the Erie
club's launch using standard acetyl rail guides from Blacksky. It was the
first time that I'd used a rail and it made an instant convert out of me.

OBTW I'm hoping to certify Level-I this year myself. After looking over
all of the available kits and researching the percentage of certifications
of as many of them as I could I've chosen the BSD "Horizon" for my attempt.
It comes with a 38mm motor mount and a 29mm adapter and is light enough to
be flown on a G64 or G80 motor. For certifications it's rugged enough to be
flown with a H128 for Level-I or a J350 for Level-II attempts making it a
double threat. Check it out at www.bsdrocketry.com.

Ken Holloway


locked Map link for Saturday's party.

Tod Hilty
 

This is from mapsonus.com...

http://mapsonus.switchboard.com/bin/maps-maponly/usr=~3a369596.eee92.271c.6/
c=1/isredir=1/

Let me know how it looks from y'all's perspective, as since my browser has
it cached, it continues to show the same copy.

Anyway, you'll note the intersection of Pioneer Trail, and Mantua Center.
This intersection is the third to the east, along Pioneer Trail, from
Carlton's field.

High Street in Mantua is Mennonite Road to the west. Main street is SR 44
to the north, and the south. Reservoir is the only road entering High
street on the north side, and it's at the very top of the hill.

If it's still confusing, just go to www.mapsonus.com, pick maps, and punch
in 10767 Reservoir Dr., Mantua, OH 44255, and keep zooming out until you
figure out where you're at! ;)

Tod


locked King Viper 3

saw7490@...
 

Hey Harry Weiss here, Im thinkin' about getting a King Viper 3 for
Christmas(9ft tall,5"dia.) she runs on 3 motors(I'll be proably using
3 g-64-7W,or 3 H-somethings for my lvl. 1 certif.) Can I use this
thing at a normal launch or is it too big.I was online looking at
launch rods and found the x-treme rail 1 6-ft section but it uses
different lugs check it out at Giantleaprocketry.com it is under new
stuff.