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moderated Re: MTMA Model Rocket Launch - Sat, 10/24/2020 10:00am-5:00pm #cal-reminder

Jennifer Davis
 

Jim, what time you thinking of going to Harmon? 


On Oct 17, 2020, at 11:19 PM, Jim Seibyl via groups.io <jseibyl@...> wrote:

Thanks Mike,

I’ll have to see how many of the team can go and transportation arrangements since I won’t have school transport available.  Either way will work for us.  I have the same launcher as the club(I got the club one after they saw mine lol) and a jaw stand and rail if we end up at Harmon.  I am a full member so I assume if we go to Harmon we could launch on my stuff, unless there is any objection from the officers than we try to go to Barber.  As long as the weather holds up that is.....thanks again!

J

“We need more boom.”

On Oct 17, 2020, at 10:40 PM, M Schevey <Tractionengines@...> wrote:


Jim, 

My understanding is that there are 2 options for next Saturday. (Weather permitting) One is the launch at Barber Airport. This is open to visitors with the normal details. The other option is the MTMA members only launch at Harmond field since this will be our normally scheduled 4th Saturday of the month. Because the club gear is going to be at Barber Field, the Harmon site is BYOG.

Our Saturdays are freed up ("fall baseball" ended), so we hope to be at one, or the other, depending on how far the kids want to drive.

Mike

Sent from my Sprint Samsung Galaxy S9.


-------- Original message --------
From: "Jim Seibyl via groups.io" <jseibyl@...>
Date: 10/17/20 4:53 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: main@mtma.groups.io
Subject: Re: [MTMA] MTMA Model Rocket Launch - Sat, 10/24/2020 10:00am-5:00pm #cal-reminder

Just checking if it is at Barber next week.  I’m hoping to bring my TARC team to do some testing.....

Jim

“We need more boom.”

On Oct 14, 2020, at 10:00 AM, main@MTMA.groups.io Calendar <main@mtma.groups.io> wrote:



Reminder: MTMA Model Rocket Launch

When: Saturday, 24 October 2020, 10:00am to 5:00pm, (GMT-04:00) America/New York

Where:https://goo.gl/maps/8YDQqLbmjErqznH3A

View Event

Organizer: MTMA

Description: This is a regular model rocket launch to be conducted in accordance with the NAR Model Rocket Safety Code ( http://www.nar.org/safety-information/model-rocket-safety-code/ ) and MTMA launch procedures.  This is not an High Power launch.

There is a mandatory $5 per person fee that will be collected from each person in attendance.  Bring exact change.  Persons without exact change may be asked to depart and get a five dollar bill elsewhere.  Non-members pay $10.

Anyone is invited to attend.  Non-MTMA members are limited to 20 N-s impulse maximum (D motor), no staging, and no clusters. 

In the event of poor flying conditions, we will reschedule for Saturday October 31. Stay tuned for last minute updates.

Please arrive on time. We fly until 5:00 pm, or until everyone has had enough and goes home. If you arrive later in the day, you may find that we have already flown and packed up.


moderated Re: MTMA Model Rocket Launch - Sat, 10/24/2020 10:00am-5:00pm #cal-reminder

Jim Seibyl
 

Thanks Mike,

I’ll have to see how many of the team can go and transportation arrangements since I won’t have school transport available.  Either way will work for us.  I have the same launcher as the club(I got the club one after they saw mine lol) and a jaw stand and rail if we end up at Harmon.  I am a full member so I assume if we go to Harmon we could launch on my stuff, unless there is any objection from the officers than we try to go to Barber.  As long as the weather holds up that is.....thanks again!

J

“We need more boom.”

On Oct 17, 2020, at 10:40 PM, M Schevey <Tractionengines@...> wrote:


Jim, 

My understanding is that there are 2 options for next Saturday. (Weather permitting) One is the launch at Barber Airport. This is open to visitors with the normal details. The other option is the MTMA members only launch at Harmond field since this will be our normally scheduled 4th Saturday of the month. Because the club gear is going to be at Barber Field, the Harmon site is BYOG.

Our Saturdays are freed up ("fall baseball" ended), so we hope to be at one, or the other, depending on how far the kids want to drive.

Mike

Sent from my Sprint Samsung Galaxy S9.


-------- Original message --------
From: "Jim Seibyl via groups.io" <jseibyl@...>
Date: 10/17/20 4:53 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: main@mtma.groups.io
Subject: Re: [MTMA] MTMA Model Rocket Launch - Sat, 10/24/2020 10:00am-5:00pm #cal-reminder

Just checking if it is at Barber next week.  I’m hoping to bring my TARC team to do some testing.....

Jim

“We need more boom.”

On Oct 14, 2020, at 10:00 AM, main@MTMA.groups.io Calendar <main@mtma.groups.io> wrote:



Reminder: MTMA Model Rocket Launch

When: Saturday, 24 October 2020, 10:00am to 5:00pm, (GMT-04:00) America/New York

Where:https://goo.gl/maps/8YDQqLbmjErqznH3A

View Event

Organizer: MTMA

Description: This is a regular model rocket launch to be conducted in accordance with the NAR Model Rocket Safety Code ( http://www.nar.org/safety-information/model-rocket-safety-code/ ) and MTMA launch procedures.  This is not an High Power launch.

There is a mandatory $5 per person fee that will be collected from each person in attendance.  Bring exact change.  Persons without exact change may be asked to depart and get a five dollar bill elsewhere.  Non-members pay $10.

Anyone is invited to attend.  Non-MTMA members are limited to 20 N-s impulse maximum (D motor), no staging, and no clusters. 

In the event of poor flying conditions, we will reschedule for Saturday October 31. Stay tuned for last minute updates.

Please arrive on time. We fly until 5:00 pm, or until everyone has had enough and goes home. If you arrive later in the day, you may find that we have already flown and packed up.


moderated Re: MTMA Model Rocket Launch - Sat, 10/24/2020 10:00am-5:00pm #cal-reminder

M Schevey
 

Jim, 

My understanding is that there are 2 options for next Saturday. (Weather permitting) One is the launch at Barber Airport. This is open to visitors with the normal details. The other option is the MTMA members only launch at Harmond field since this will be our normally scheduled 4th Saturday of the month. Because the club gear is going to be at Barber Field, the Harmon site is BYOG.

Our Saturdays are freed up ("fall baseball" ended), so we hope to be at one, or the other, depending on how far the kids want to drive.

Mike

Sent from my Sprint Samsung Galaxy S9.


-------- Original message --------
From: "Jim Seibyl via groups.io" <jseibyl@...>
Date: 10/17/20 4:53 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: main@mtma.groups.io
Subject: Re: [MTMA] MTMA Model Rocket Launch - Sat, 10/24/2020 10:00am-5:00pm #cal-reminder

Just checking if it is at Barber next week.  I’m hoping to bring my TARC team to do some testing.....

Jim

“We need more boom.”

On Oct 14, 2020, at 10:00 AM, main@MTMA.groups.io Calendar <main@mtma.groups.io> wrote:



Reminder: MTMA Model Rocket Launch

When: Saturday, 24 October 2020, 10:00am to 5:00pm, (GMT-04:00) America/New York

Where:https://goo.gl/maps/8YDQqLbmjErqznH3A

View Event

Organizer: MTMA

Description: This is a regular model rocket launch to be conducted in accordance with the NAR Model Rocket Safety Code ( http://www.nar.org/safety-information/model-rocket-safety-code/ ) and MTMA launch procedures.  This is not an High Power launch.

There is a mandatory $5 per person fee that will be collected from each person in attendance.  Bring exact change.  Persons without exact change may be asked to depart and get a five dollar bill elsewhere.  Non-members pay $10.

Anyone is invited to attend.  Non-MTMA members are limited to 20 N-s impulse maximum (D motor), no staging, and no clusters. 

In the event of poor flying conditions, we will reschedule for Saturday October 31. Stay tuned for last minute updates.

Please arrive on time. We fly until 5:00 pm, or until everyone has had enough and goes home. If you arrive later in the day, you may find that we have already flown and packed up.


moderated Re: MTMA Model Rocket Launch - Sat, 10/24/2020 10:00am-5:00pm #cal-reminder

Jim Seibyl
 

Just checking if it is at Barber next week.  I’m hoping to bring my TARC team to do some testing.....

Jim

“We need more boom.”

On Oct 14, 2020, at 10:00 AM, main@MTMA.groups.io Calendar <main@mtma.groups.io> wrote:



Reminder: MTMA Model Rocket Launch

When: Saturday, 24 October 2020, 10:00am to 5:00pm, (GMT-04:00) America/New York

Where:https://goo.gl/maps/8YDQqLbmjErqznH3A

View Event

Organizer: MTMA

Description: This is a regular model rocket launch to be conducted in accordance with the NAR Model Rocket Safety Code ( http://www.nar.org/safety-information/model-rocket-safety-code/ ) and MTMA launch procedures.  This is not an High Power launch.

There is a mandatory $5 per person fee that will be collected from each person in attendance.  Bring exact change.  Persons without exact change may be asked to depart and get a five dollar bill elsewhere.  Non-members pay $10.

Anyone is invited to attend.  Non-MTMA members are limited to 20 N-s impulse maximum (D motor), no staging, and no clusters. 

In the event of poor flying conditions, we will reschedule for Saturday October 31. Stay tuned for last minute updates.

Please arrive on time. We fly until 5:00 pm, or until everyone has had enough and goes home. If you arrive later in the day, you may find that we have already flown and packed up.


moderated MTMA Model Rocket Launch - Sat, 10/24/2020 10:00am-5:00pm #cal-reminder

main@MTMA.groups.io Calendar <main@...>
 

Reminder: MTMA Model Rocket Launch

When: Saturday, 24 October 2020, 10:00am to 5:00pm, (GMT-04:00) America/New York

Where:https://goo.gl/maps/8YDQqLbmjErqznH3A

View Event

Organizer: MTMA

Description: This is a regular model rocket launch to be conducted in accordance with the NAR Model Rocket Safety Code ( http://www.nar.org/safety-information/model-rocket-safety-code/ ) and MTMA launch procedures.  This is not an High Power launch.

There is a mandatory $5 per person fee that will be collected from each person in attendance.  Bring exact change.  Persons without exact change may be asked to depart and get a five dollar bill elsewhere.  Non-members pay $10.

Anyone is invited to attend.  Non-MTMA members are limited to 20 N-s impulse maximum (D motor), no staging, and no clusters. 

In the event of poor flying conditions, we will reschedule for Saturday October 31. Stay tuned for last minute updates.

Please arrive on time. We fly until 5:00 pm, or until everyone has had enough and goes home. If you arrive later in the day, you may find that we have already flown and packed up.


moderated Launch is Go! Sat. Oct. 10 - Barber Field #go

Wolfram v.Kiparski
 

Launch is a go! for Barber Field.  Forecast is sunny and warm, and 10 mph winds from the southwest.  Attached are the directions for how to get to and on to the field.

There will be a large cub scout pack flying rockets with us during the morning.

The airport charges a $5.00 day use fee for each adult who comes to the facility.  No exceptions.  I also am not prepared to "break a $20" for multiple people, so please bring exact change.  Non-members pay $10 to cover the MTMA launch fee plus the day-use fee.

Non-MTMA members are limited to 20 N-s impulse maximum (D motor), no staging, and no clusters. 

Please park where you see others parked, and please don't attempt to drive up past the parked cars to get closer.  You may be asked to move, by either me, or the airport owners.  This is an active airport, and we will be flying next to active runways.

Reminder: MTMA Model Rocket Launch (not a High Power launch)
This is a regular model rocket launch to be conducted in accordance with the NAR Model Rocket Safety Code ( http://www.nar.org/safety-information/model-rocket-safety-code/ ) and MTMA launch procedures. 

When: Saturday, 10 October 2020, 10:00am to 5:00pm, (GMT-04:00) America/New York
We'll fly until 5:00 or until we call it a day.

 


moderated Re: Greetings..

Wolfram v.Kiparski
 

Charles,
Sorry for the delay.  You and your Scouts are always welcome to come fly rockets with us.  This month, and next, we are flying from our new location at the Barber Aircraft Airport north of Alliance.  We are going to be there this Saturday Oct. 10 at 10:00 am.  Attached are the directions to the field.  Our next launch will be on Oct. 24 at the same location.
The airport charges a day-use fee of $5.00 per adult.  Our model rocket club will not charge launch fees to scouts who fly rockets together as a troop.
Regards,
-Wolfram


On Tue, Sep 22, 2020 at 3:23 PM Wolfram v.Kiparski via groups.io <astronwolf=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:
I think we might be able to accommodate you.  We just had three cub scout packs, including yours, contact us.  All want to fly rockets in October.  I'd like to take this conversation off of this list and via email so that I can have one conversation with all of you.  We'll work something out.  I'll be in touch soon.
-W


moderated MTMA Model Rocket Launch - Sat, 10/10/2020 10:00am-5:00pm #cal-reminder

main@MTMA.groups.io Calendar <main@...>
 

Reminder: MTMA Model Rocket Launch

When: Saturday, 10 October 2020, 10:00am to 5:00pm, (GMT-04:00) America/New York

Where:https://goo.gl/maps/8YDQqLbmjErqznH3A

View Event

Organizer: MTMA

Description: This is a regular model rocket launch to be conducted in accordance with the NAR Model Rocket Safety Code ( http://www.nar.org/safety-information/model-rocket-safety-code/ ) and MTMA launch procedures.  This is not an High Power launch.

There is a mandatory $5 per person fee that will be collected from each person in attendance.  Bring exact change.  Persons without exact change may be asked to depart and get a five dollar bill elsewhere.  Non-members pay $10.

Anyone is invited to attend.  Non-MTMA members are limited to 20 N-s impulse maximum (D motor), no staging, and no clusters. 

In the event of poor flying conditions, we will reschedule for Saturday October 17. Stay tuned for last minute updates.

Please arrive on time. We fly until 5:00 pm, or until everyone has had enough and goes home. If you arrive later in the day, you may find that we have already flown and packed up.


moderated Re: Greetings..

Wolfram v.Kiparski
 

I think we might be able to accommodate you.  We just had three cub scout packs, including yours, contact us.  All want to fly rockets in October.  I'd like to take this conversation off of this list and via email so that I can have one conversation with all of you.  We'll work something out.  I'll be in touch soon.
-W


moderated Greetings..

charlesmatulac@...
 

Good day, all.
 
I'm reaching out on behalf of Boy Scout troop 3280 in Streetsboro to see if the MTMA would allow some of our scouts to join in at one of your October launches.
 
Our scouts have indicated an interest in learning more about model rockets, and who better to learn from than the enthusiasts?
 
While we have about 40 scouts in total, we wouldn't expect all of them and their families to be in attendance. An even smaller subset of the attending group may choose to participate, as some do have their own kits, and will be aware of the launch fees.

Would you as a group be comfortable essentially 'hosting' the troop? Nothing formal needed, just being open to having a group of scouts present, and willing to answer questions as they come up.

Alternatively, is the Harmon field available to non NAR groups for one-off days like our troop? Would an NAR/MTMA member need to be in attendance for such an event?
 
 


moderated Re: Upcoming public access launches

Tom Augustyn
 

Rocketry rule of thumb #1. If you don't want to lose it, don't launch it...Thanks for the info Wolf! Hope to see you there!


-----Original Message-----
From: Wolfram v.Kiparski <astronwolf@...>
To: main@MTMA.groups.io
Sent: Wed, Sep 16, 2020 3:11 pm
Subject: Re: [MTMA] Upcoming public access launches

Yes the field is big enough - if the wind direction is favorable.  Where we set up the first time winds out of the north or northeast would not be so good for us because then we would be blown into the tree line to the south.  We will have to ask and see if we can get permission to move to another location on the field.  But can you imagine the confusion if we said "go here and park here" but at the last minute went and set up somewhere else?

Winds out of the south, east, and west are favorable.  But even with a favorable breeze, we lost a rocket to a distant tree.  Trees are everywhere, and hungry.


moderated Re: Upcoming public access launches

Wolfram v.Kiparski
 

Yes the field is big enough - if the wind direction is favorable.  Where we set up the first time winds out of the north or northeast would not be so good for us because then we would be blown into the tree line to the south.  We will have to ask and see if we can get permission to move to another location on the field.  But can you imagine the confusion if we said "go here and park here" but at the last minute went and set up somewhere else?

Winds out of the south, east, and west are favorable.  But even with a favorable breeze, we lost a rocket to a distant tree.  Trees are everywhere, and hungry.


moderated Re: Upcoming public access launches

Tom Augustyn
 

I'd like to finally get a Launch Pad PAC-3 Patriot in the air on an Aerotech E15-4 and also Estes Maxi Honest John on an Aerotech E30-4. Can that field handle or accomodate 29MM motors like an Estes Pro Series Nike Smoke on an Aerotech F26 ?


-----Original Message-----
From: Wolfram v.Kiparski <astronwolf@...>
To: main@mtma.groups.io
Sent: Wed, Sep 16, 2020 2:42 pm
Subject: Re: [MTMA] Upcoming public access launches

Jon,

Model rocket motors.  As for what impulse model rocket motor that depends on wind direction.  With favorable winds I would fly just about anything, though drift from a high altitude is always a problem.  Dual deployment or a chute release makes it a walk in the park.  

I flew an Estes Fat Boy (short BT80 size kit from 20 years ago) with an E20-7 and got it back no problem.  I plan on flying it with an F24 reload out there, but only if the wind is favorable.



On Wed, Sep 16, 2020, 2:25 PM Jon Goldsby <jongoldsby@...> wrote:
Wolf what motors would you recommend for the new field?

On Wed, Sep 16, 2020 at 1:14 PM Wolfram v.Kiparski <astronwolf@...> wrote:
Yes you may, Tom.


moderated Re: Upcoming public access launches

Wolfram v.Kiparski
 

Jon,

Model rocket motors.  As for what impulse model rocket motor that depends on wind direction.  With favorable winds I would fly just about anything, though drift from a high altitude is always a problem.  Dual deployment or a chute release makes it a walk in the park.  

I flew an Estes Fat Boy (short BT80 size kit from 20 years ago) with an E20-7 and got it back no problem.  I plan on flying it with an F24 reload out there, but only if the wind is favorable.



On Wed, Sep 16, 2020, 2:25 PM Jon Goldsby <jongoldsby@...> wrote:
Wolf what motors would you recommend for the new field?

On Wed, Sep 16, 2020 at 1:14 PM Wolfram v.Kiparski <astronwolf@...> wrote:
Yes you may, Tom.


moderated Re: Upcoming public access launches

Jon Goldsby
 

Wolf what motors would you recommend for the new field?

On Wed, Sep 16, 2020 at 1:14 PM Wolfram v.Kiparski <astronwolf@...> wrote:
Yes you may, Tom.


moderated Re: Upcoming public access launches

Wolfram v.Kiparski
 

Yes you may, Tom.


moderated Re: Upcoming public access launches

Tom Augustyn
 

Thanks Wolf, hopefully I'll see you there. May I pay my member fees at the site to join the MTMA group and be able to launch high power birds greater than D Motor? I am currently a NAR member.

Have a good day!

Tom


-----Original Message-----
From: Wolfram v.Kiparski <astronwolf@...>
To: main@MTMA.groups.io
Sent: Tue, Sep 15, 2020 8:54 pm
Subject: Re: [MTMA] Upcoming public access launches

Hi Tom,

This email message server is also a message board, with calendar and file storage features.
The website is, meh... it will get fixed eventually.  But in the meantime, avail yourself to this group's calendar.

MTMA Public Launches Calendar


moderated Re: Upcoming public access launches

Wolfram v.Kiparski
 

Hi Tom,

This email message server is also a message board, with calendar and file storage features.
The website is, meh... it will get fixed eventually.  But in the meantime, avail yourself to this group's calendar.

MTMA Public Launches Calendar


moderated Re: Upcoming public access launches

Tom Augustyn
 

Great news Wolf! Is there a current calendar available on the MTMA web site for launch dates?  The link I have saved below only reflects dates for 2019.

http://www.mtmarocketry.org/main/
  

-----Original Message-----
From: Wolfram v.Kiparski <astronwolf@...>
To: main@MTMA.groups.io
Sent: Tue, Sep 15, 2020 1:10 pm
Subject: [MTMA] Upcoming public access launches

For all you lurkers out there in non-MTMA member land, we have scheduled public launches at our new field at the Barber Airport north of Alliance.  Check the calendar for two dates in October and one date in November.  This is a much larger field than Harmon Flying Field in Aurora, with acres of mown grass.  If the wind is right, it's truly a pleasure to fly there not have to wade through tall grass and bushes to recover your rocket.  But being an active airport it has unique flying restrictions.  The field is not suitable for High Power because of the proximity of people's homes (< 1500 feet away).  The field is shared with a parachute club and a model airplane club.  The owner believes that a model rocket club can cooperate with the other clubs that also use this facility.  We think so too.  But access does come with a few caveats.

Caveat #1 - the Airport charges $5 per person day use fee.
Caveat #2 - non-MTMA members are restricted to a maximum 20 N-s power (D engine), no clusters, no staging at Barber Field.
Caveat #3 - non-MTMA members pay MTMA a $5 launch fee too - $10 total to fly at Barber.
Caveat #4 - we periodically have to shut down the range to allow the parachute club to do its thing.

Notice a trend here?  We want to encourage you to join the National Association of Rocketry and join MTMA.  This message goes out to 128 email addresses that are not bouncing and are not associated with club members.  Consider doing more than just lurking MTMA's email message list.  Re-up and come check us out.


moderated Upcoming public access launches

Wolfram v.Kiparski
 
Edited

For all you lurkers out there in non-MTMA member land, we have scheduled public launches at our new field at the Barber Airport north of Alliance.  Check the calendar for two dates in October and one date in November.  This is a much larger field than Harmon Flying Field in Aurora, with acres of mown grass.  If the wind is right, it's truly a pleasure to fly there and not have to wade through tall grass and bushes to recover your rocket.  But being an active airport it has unique flying restrictions.  The field is not suitable for High Power because of the proximity of people's homes (< 1500 feet away).  The field is shared with a parachute club and a model airplane club.  The owner believes that a model rocket club can cooperate with the other clubs that also use this facility.  We think so too.  But access does come with a few caveats.

Caveat #1 - the Airport charges $5 per person day use fee.
Caveat #2 - non-MTMA members are restricted to a maximum 20 N-s power (D engine), no clusters, no staging at Barber Field.
Caveat #3 - non-MTMA members pay MTMA a $5 launch fee too - $10 total to fly at Barber.
Caveat #4 - we periodically have to shut down the range to allow the parachute club to do its thing.

Notice a trend here?  We want to encourage you to join the National Association of Rocketry and join MTMA.  This message goes out to 128 email addresses that are not bouncing and are not associated with club members.  Consider doing more than just lurking MTMA's email message list.  Re-up and come check us out.

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