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locked Reminder - Launch at Summit County Fairgrounds

MTMA@...
 

We would like to remind you of this upcoming event.

Launch at Summit County Fairgrounds

Date: Friday, November 24, 2000
Time: 10:00AM - 3:00PM EST (GMT-05:00)

S.R. 91 (North Avenue)
Tallmadge, Ohio
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Range opens at 10:30 a.m.


locked Re: Reminder - Launch at Summit County Fairgrounds

Phoenix7187@...
 

I will not be there, I have to work


locked Re: Reminder - Launch at Summit County Fairgrounds

Larry Graceffo
 

sorry can't make it friday,, gotta work. hope you have great weather,, see
you at the next one. happy thanksgiving to all.
larry graceffo


locked Re: Reminder - Launch at Summit County Fairgrounds

Paul Bixler <PBixler@...>
 

Hi,

I'm from Denver and I'm in Pittsburgh visiting with my brother. I was
wondering if you think it would be worth a two hour drive to come see
your launch tomorrow. My brother has never been to one of your
launches. How many people will be there? Etc. TIA

John


locked Re: Reminder - Launch at Summit County Fairgrounds

M <mleffler@...>
 

Hi John,

I'm not sure how many people will be there given the holiday. I plan on
attending and will have 3 or 4 rockets to put up. I'll probably use a few
B's and C's and also some G75's, possibly an H128 if conditions allow. I
would suggest you check the postings Friday morning and see if others have
checked in. Have a great holiday and a safe drive should you decide to head
over.

Mike

----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Bixler" <PBixler@...>
To: <MTMA@...>
Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2000 4:31 PM
Subject: Re: [MTMA] Reminder - Launch at Summit County Fairgrounds


Hi,

I'm from Denver and I'm in Pittsburgh visiting with my brother. I was
wondering if you think it would be worth a two hour drive to come see
your launch tomorrow. My brother has never been to one of your
launches. How many people will be there? Etc. TIA

John



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locked Re: Reminder - Launch at Summit County Fairgrounds

Mark Recktenwald <m_reckt@...>
 

Paul Bixler wrote:

I'm from Denver and I'm in Pittsburgh visiting with my brother. I was
wondering if you think it would be worth a two hour drive to come see
your launch tomorrow. My brother has never been to one of your
launches. How many people will be there? Etc. TIA
Right now it looks like we'll only have a handful of people. Most of the
folks who fly big stuff (H, I, J) won't be there. I'm sure those that
will be there will do lots of A's, B's, and C's, plenty of D's and E's,
and a handful of F's and G's. Dare I say we might see an H or two? Due
to the weather (upper 30's), I can't see us staying very long, so it
will be a shorter-than-normal launch.

If you are interested in coming to watch a big show, this is not the one
to come to. I would suggest attending one of our Spring launches in
Mantua. In the Spring everyone has lots of recently-completed rocket
projects to fly and they are just itching to see them "kiss the sky".
The field in Mantua is much bigger and we'll have a waiver too.
Tomorrow's launch at SCFG will be limited to large model rockets (not
more than 3.3 pounds and 125 grams of propellant).

If you are interested in doing a lot of flying yourself, this one will
be fun. Typically, the fewer the flyers, the easier it is for each
individual to get more rockets in the air.

--
Mark Recktenwald
Stow, Ohio
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locked November 24th, 2000 Launch report, Summit County Fairgrounds, Tallmadge, Ohio

M <mleffler@...>
 

Weather:
Sunny
Winds: 0 - 5 mph.
Temperature: 38F - 42F
LMR rules in effect

As temporary scribe, this will be a rather short report, but for late
November, we couldn't have asked for a nicer day (maybe a tad bit warmer).
In order to save time, launches will be listed by person rather than in
sequence of order.

Chuck Straka - Chuck started the day with a nice little "wind & drift check"
launch on an Alpha 3 using an A8-3. Chucks other flights were as follows:
a drag race with Mark Recktenwald both using Sidewinders on C6-3 (no talk of
racing for pink-slips). He followed this with a NCR eliminator on a F20-4,
and then his F22 Air Superior Booster <sp> on a B6-4. Chuck then hauled out
his Big Daddy and lofted it on a F40-7.

Yours truly was second out of the chute lighting up a newly built Estes Fat
Boy on a B6-4, and then the Saturn V on an E15-4. Then it was time to
accelerate the cash burn rate and haul out the thrice zippered Small
Endeavour, with 12" of fresh Quantum Tube, the SE's first shot for today was
on a G75-medium. Kevin Leffler then sent the Fat Boy up twice on C6-3's. I
followed up with the Small Endeavour this time on an H128-short. Daughter
Kristen "I'm starting to like this rocket stuff" Leffler then sent up the
Fat Boy on a C6-5, and brother Kevin let the Saturn V go on an E30-7. I
then sent up my "extended" length LOC- Stovie (how's that for a plug
Barry??) on a G75-short. That was followed up by the Small Endeavour on a
G75-medium. Kevin once again fired of the Fat Boy on a C6-5. I then agreed
to a drag race with Mark Recktenwald, My Small Endeavour on a H128 against
Mark's infamous CR4 on a H180. I cleared the rod before Mark ever let out
the clutch, but once that H180 came up to pressure, the CR4 left me in its
dust. 2 H's at once is a great crowd pleaser. Given the burn rate for
those 2 motors, we're talking $14,400 an hour to race those 2 rockets!!!
(don't show the wives) My last flight was the Fat Boy on a C6-5

Mark Recktenwald started the day with his Sidewinder on the before mentioned
C6-3 drag race. Mark then launched his Shadow on 1 D12-7 and 4 C6-7's, then
in keeping with tradition, the D12 CATO'd and landed about 3 feet from the
pad, with minor smoke damage to the Shadow. The Shadow faired better next
time going up on 5 C6-5's. Mark also lofted his Marz Lander on an A10-3T.
The last flight of the day for Mark was another drag race (competitive
sucker ain't he?) pitting his CR4 camera rocket on an H180 against my Small
Endeavour running a small block H128.I lost. Son Adam also lofted his Bubba
on a C6-5

Paul Bixler and his brother John drove in from Pittsburgh (in search of a
superior football team) and stopped at the launch on the way to the Brown's
team store (so I hear). Paul's first shot was his Viper IV using 2 D12-7's
and 2 D11-P's (I hope to post a Photo to E-Groups later). Paul then sent up
his Nike Smoke on a D12-7, and his Little Buster on a cluster of 3 C6-5's.
his next flight was a scratch built "Rampart" on a D12-0 and D12-5. Paul's
Viper IV went back out on a combo of 2 D12-7's and 2 D11-P's. Next up was
his Expeditor on a G75-S and his last flight of the day was his scratch
built "Blazer" on an E30-7. Thanks for coming over to our neck of the woods
guys.

H. Weiss sent up a Graduator on G64

Paul Bauer burned his share of engines today also. Paul started with his
Estes V2 on a D12-5 and the fired up his Level 1 success story, Expeditor,
on a G80-7. He also sent his Expeditor on an H128-S, and closed out the day
with the V2 on a D12-5

Wolf made appearance lighting off his L'il Nuke on a G35-7

Tom Eckert had a great flight with his "Swinger" on a C6-3

The infamous Barry Lynch had several great flights.but unfortunately didn't
write 'em in the book. That's okay though because Barry's somewhat new to
this rocket stuff. I do recall he had a great flight on a proto-type V2 on
I believe a H128. Hopefully he can find a manufacturer to "kit" the model
for him, (I'd probably even buy one).

With the exceptions of those not recorded, here is a breakdown of ordinance
expended.

A's - 2
B's - 2
C's - 21
D's - 14
E's - 3
F's - 2
G's - 6
H's - 5

Total: 55 plus some MIA's



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locked Re: November 24th, 2000 Launch report, Summit County Fairgrounds, Tallmadge, Ohio

Paul Bixler <PBixler@...>
 

Thanks to Mark, Mike, Chuck and all the Steeler fans that my brother and
I met today! We had a great time and enjoyed the hospitality. Very
good launch report except the Expeditor. That wasn't mine. No level 1
yet. Also that Rampart was a two-staged rocket which is about 13 oz.
sitting on the pad. Very slow liftoff on 1st stage, but once it gets
going it simulated and achieved about 1,000 feet for the top stage.
Will look forward to the Viper IV picture post and the day I launch my
first F & G motors! Still using E, D and C motors. I don't have good
picture of ViperIV taking off yet, so I'm hoping that it turned out
well! Also good launch system. We clustered at 100% today. Looking
forward to coming back someday and enjoyed meeting Barry Lynch,
president of Loc/ Precision. Would like to get some of those modular
baffle units for some scratch builds for use with 29 mm econojets that
I'm building Barry! Thanks for the catalogs Barry! Will pass them
out at the PSC and Dragonfire launches here in Pgh next year!

Paul


locked Re: November 24th, 2000 Launch report, Summit County Fairgrounds, Tallmadge, Ohio

kgholloway@...
 

"M",

Excellent launch report! Wish I could have been there but I was paged just
as I was leaving and had to go into to work, what a bummer! Hope to make
it out to the next launch.

Ken Holloway


locked Reminder - Holiday Party at Tod's

MTMA@...
 

We would like to remind you of this upcoming event.

Holiday Party at Tod's

Date: Saturday, December 16, 2000
Time: 7:00PM - 11:00PM EST (GMT-05:00)

For more information, see message 57 at:
http://www.egroups.com/message/MTMA/57

This will take the place of November's bimonthly section
meeting. There are two items on the agenda:
1. 2001 Flight Calendar
2. Fun


locked Reminder - Launch at Pioneer Trail Field

MTMA@...
 

We would like to remind you of this upcoming event.

Launch at Pioneer Trail Field

Date: Sunday, December 10, 2000
Time: 9:00AM - 3:00PM EST (GMT-05:00)

West Pioneer Trail
Mantua Township, Portage County, Ohio
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Setup at 9:00 a.m.
Range opens at 10:00 a.m.


locked I'm a moron...

Tod Hilty
 

"and this is my wife... she's frosting a cake with a paper knife"..

OK, free beer on the 16th to the first person that can tell me the artist,
and the title!

<vbg>

I *just* remembered that we have a launch scheduled for the 10th! I haven't
contacted Mr. Carlton, but I wouldn't expect any problems getting permission.

Do I have any takers? Weather's supposed to be moderating on Sunday, with
temps up toward 40. The only potential problem I forsee is the field
condition if the temperature gets high enough for the ground to thaw. Dunno
what it's like in you guys' territory, but when the ground thawed over last
weekend, we had quite a bit of mud.

Give me a quicky headcount for Sunday, and if the numbers are there, I'll
get everything cleared...

Later!

Tod


locked Re: I'm a moron...

MLeffler <mleffler@...>
 

I plan on being there but i heard a chance of rain...other than that.....
mud good...mud soft

Mike

----- Original Message -----
From: "Hilty Information Systems" <blankreg@...>
To: <MTMA@...>
Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2000 9:30 PM
Subject: [MTMA] I'm a moron...


"and this is my wife... she's frosting a cake with a paper knife"..

OK, free beer on the 16th to the first person that can tell me the artist,
and the title!

<vbg>

I *just* remembered that we have a launch scheduled for the 10th! I
haven't
contacted Mr. Carlton, but I wouldn't expect any problems getting
permission.

Do I have any takers? Weather's supposed to be moderating on Sunday, with
temps up toward 40. The only potential problem I forsee is the field
condition if the temperature gets high enough for the ground to thaw.
Dunno
what it's like in you guys' territory, but when the ground thawed over
last
weekend, we had quite a bit of mud.

Give me a quicky headcount for Sunday, and if the numbers are there, I'll
get everything cleared...

Later!

Tod



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locked Re: I'm a moron...

Mark Recktenwald <m_reckt@...>
 

Hilty Information Systems wrote:

"and this is my wife... she's frosting a cake with a paper knife"..

OK, free beer on the 16th to the first person that can tell me the artist,
and the title!
Artist: Frank Zappa, Song Title: Flakes, From the Album: Sheik Yerbouti

"All what we got here's
American made
It's a little bit cheesey,
But it's nicely displayed
Well we don't get excited when it
Crumbles 'n' breaks
We just get on the phone
And call up some Flakes"

Granted, our Estes crap is no longer American made, but it is nicely
displayed, it does crumble and break, and we pick up the phone and call
the Flakes in Colorado! They aren't all in California, you see, just
"most of them."

So I got the entire post to be on topic!

I *just* remembered that we have a launch scheduled for the 10th! I haven't
contacted Mr. Carlton, but I wouldn't expect any problems getting permission.

Do I have any takers? Weather's supposed to be moderating on Sunday, with
temps up toward 40. The only potential problem I forsee is the field
condition if the temperature gets high enough for the ground to thaw. Dunno
what it's like in you guys' territory, but when the ground thawed over last
weekend, we had quite a bit of mud.

Give me a quicky headcount for Sunday, and if the numbers are there, I'll
get everything cleared...
I'll be freezing my behind watching the Breveland Clowns!

Oh, by the way, I am not a Zappa know-it-all, that's what Google.com is
for!

--
Mark Recktenwald
Stow, Ohio
Moderator of MTMA on eGroups: http://www.egroups.com/group/MTMA
NAR #77432, Level 1, Co V.P./Sec'y MTMA, NAR Section #606
MTMA web page: http://web.raex.com/~markndeb/rockets/mtma/


locked Re: I'm a moron...

Tod Hilty
 

At 10:02 PM 12/6/00 -0500, Mark Recktenwald wrote:
Hilty Information Systems wrote:

"and this is my wife... she's frosting a cake with a paper knife"..

OK, free beer on the 16th to the first person that can tell me the artist,
and the title!
Artist: Frank Zappa, Song Title: Flakes, From the Album: Sheik Yerbouti
<massive snip>

Oh, by the way, I am not a Zappa know-it-all, that's what Google.com is
for!
Ya should be! Zappa was one of the best!

Poophead! Didn't I mention that search engines weren't included in the
original terms of the agreement?

<bg>

WRT your subsequent message, yes'm the beer is yours! Good stuff too! I'm
going to latch on to some good German lager, hopefully a nice Marzen...

Anyway, I hope Chuck pipes up, as my launcher is still DOA, and I haven't
heard anything from Stan/Randy. Mike Leffler already mentioned that he'd be
there, so I guess I'd better get hopping...

More messages to follow tomorrow...

Tod


locked Re: I'm a moron...

Tod Hilty
 

Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2000 22:13:22 -0500
To: MTMA@...
From: Hilty Information Systems <blankreg@...>
Subject: Re: [MTMA] I'm a moron...
Cc: MTMA@...

At 10:02 PM 12/6/00 -0500, Mark Recktenwald wrote:
Hilty Information Systems wrote:

"and this is my wife... she's frosting a cake with a paper knife"..

OK, free beer on the 16th to the first person that can tell me the artist,
and the title!
Artist: Frank Zappa, Song Title: Flakes, From the Album: Sheik Yerbouti
<massive snip>

Oh, by the way, I am not a Zappa know-it-all, that's what Google.com is
for!
Ya should be! Zappa was one of the best!

Poophead! Didn't I mention that search engines weren't included in the
original terms of the agreement?

Crap. Thanks a lot Mark! <bg> Didn't mean to dump that back onto the "group"..

Shoot. Now I gave away the answer!

Anyway, I'm a'flyin' give me a head count!

Tod


locked Re: I'm a moron...

Phoenix7187@...
 

i will be there


locked Re: I'm a moron...

WanerDonald <WanerDonald@...>
 

craig karen & i are planning to be there

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Recktenwald" <m_reckt@...>
To: <MTMA@...>
Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2000 10:02 PM
Subject: Re: [MTMA] I'm a moron...


Hilty Information Systems wrote:

"and this is my wife... she's frosting a cake with a paper knife"..

OK, free beer on the 16th to the first person that can tell me the
artist,
and the title!
Artist: Frank Zappa, Song Title: Flakes, From the Album: Sheik Yerbouti

"All what we got here's
American made
It's a little bit cheesey,
But it's nicely displayed
Well we don't get excited when it
Crumbles 'n' breaks
We just get on the phone
And call up some Flakes"

Granted, our Estes crap is no longer American made, but it is nicely
displayed, it does crumble and break, and we pick up the phone and call
the Flakes in Colorado! They aren't all in California, you see, just
"most of them."

So I got the entire post to be on topic!

I *just* remembered that we have a launch scheduled for the 10th! I
haven't
contacted Mr. Carlton, but I wouldn't expect any problems getting
permission.

Do I have any takers? Weather's supposed to be moderating on Sunday,
with
temps up toward 40. The only potential problem I forsee is the field
condition if the temperature gets high enough for the ground to thaw.
Dunno
what it's like in you guys' territory, but when the ground thawed over
last
weekend, we had quite a bit of mud.

Give me a quicky headcount for Sunday, and if the numbers are there,
I'll
get everything cleared...
I'll be freezing my behind watching the Breveland Clowns!

Oh, by the way, I am not a Zappa know-it-all, that's what Google.com is
for!

--
Mark Recktenwald
Stow, Ohio
Moderator of MTMA on eGroups: http://www.egroups.com/group/MTMA
NAR #77432, Level 1, Co V.P./Sec'y MTMA, NAR Section #606
MTMA web page: http://web.raex.com/~markndeb/rockets/mtma/


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locked Re: I'm a moron...

castraka@...
 

In a message dated 12/7/2000 7:45:00 AM Eastern Standard Time,
mleffler@... writes:

Anyway, I hope Chuck pipes up, as my launcher is still DOA, and I haven't
heard anything from Stan/Randy. Mike Leffler already mentioned that he'd
be
there, so I guess I'd better get hopping...

It's not like I'm going to be wandering around the fields alone if no one
else is launching <bg>
I can't make it to this one unfortunately....

I got tied up on Monday so I wasn't able to pick up Trigger from Mark's
house. This weekend is Christmas preparation time so I'll need to hang with
the family.

I just spent Tuesday/Wednesday in NYC. Shortly after we arrived in the city
we found out the the windshield to the company plane shattered on their
return trip so we ended up renting a car and driving back yesterday. SHEESH!

Have fun but you'll have to bring your own GSE.

Chuck "movin' to Montana soon..." Straka


locked Re: I'm a moron...

MLeffler <mleffler@...>
 

<snip>
Anyway, I hope Chuck pipes up, as my launcher is still DOA, and I haven't
heard anything from Stan/Randy. Mike Leffler already mentioned that he'd be
there, so I guess I'd better get hopping...

It's not like I'm going to be wandering around the fields alone if no one
else is launching <bg>

Mike

----- Original Message -----
From: "Hilty Information Systems" <blankreg@...>
To: <MTMA@...>
Cc: <MTMA@...>
Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2000 10:13 PM
Subject: Re: [MTMA] I'm a moron...


At 10:02 PM 12/6/00 -0500, Mark Recktenwald wrote:
Hilty Information Systems wrote:

"and this is my wife... she's frosting a cake with a paper knife"..

OK, free beer on the 16th to the first person that can tell me the
artist,
and the title!
Artist: Frank Zappa, Song Title: Flakes, From the Album: Sheik Yerbouti
<massive snip>

Oh, by the way, I am not a Zappa know-it-all, that's what Google.com is
for!
Ya should be! Zappa was one of the best!

Poophead! Didn't I mention that search engines weren't included in the
original terms of the agreement?

<bg>

WRT your subsequent message, yes'm the beer is yours! Good stuff too!
I'm
going to latch on to some good German lager, hopefully a nice Marzen...

Anyway, I hope Chuck pipes up, as my launcher is still DOA, and I haven't
heard anything from Stan/Randy. Mike Leffler already mentioned that he'd
be
there, so I guess I'd better get hopping...

More messages to follow tomorrow...

Tod



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